Method

How we verify a trading group's results

A screenshot proves nothing. So we do not read a group's results, we recompute them. Every trade idea a group posts is replayed against market data the group has no access to, and the number you see is what came out of that replay, including the parts that look bad.

What happens to a single posted trade

  1. 1. We read the post exactly as it was sent

    Instrument, direction, entry, stop, targets. Chart screenshots are read too, but a picture alone never becomes a scored trade. Later edits and follow-up messages attach to the original only when the evidence lines up, so a group cannot quietly rewrite a call after the fact.

  2. 2. We pull candles from sources the group does not control

    Each instrument has its own chain of independent feeds. Currencies and metals are anchored on an independent tick archive, crypto on the exchanges themselves, and connected broker terminals join as a cross-check on recent windows. If a feed disagrees with the others, that disagreement is recorded rather than smoothed away.

  3. 3. We replay the trade candle by candle

    The entry has to be supported by a candle that actually covers the moment of the post. Then the price path decides: stop first, target first, partial closes in the order they were hit. Spread and overnight cost are charged, because a result that ignores costs is not a result.

  4. 4. We score it in risk units, not in pips

    One unit of risk is the distance from entry to the stop the group itself posted. A trade that made twice what it risked is plus two, whatever the instrument or the position size. That is the only way to compare a gold scalper with someone trading an altcoin, and it is why we never publish a profit figure in currency for a posted call.

  5. 5. We say how sure we are

    Every result carries a confidence level. It drops when feeds disagree, when the data around the trade is thin, when the entry sits far from where the market actually was, or when the group left something undefined. A high confidence loss is worth more to you than a low confidence win.

What we refuse to publish

Most of the work is not scoring trades. It is deciding which ones we are not entitled to score.

A trade we could not see

If no independent feed covers the moment the call was posted, the trade stays unresolved. It never becomes a win, and it never becomes a loss. An unverifiable trade is not a zero, it is a hole, and we show it as one.

A fill the market never offered

We book the entry at what the market was actually doing when the call went out, never at the price written in the post if no candle offered it. Booking the posted price would let anyone manufacture a perfect record by posting prices that had already passed.

A call with no risk defined

No stop means no risk unit, so there is nothing to divide by. We do not invent an assumed stop for a public record, because the assumed distance would silently set the whole result. Those calls are marked as undefined risk instead.

Someone else's settings

A group's public record is scored on the group's own posted strategy. When a member changes settings to test a different approach, that runs as their private view and never touches what everyone else sees on the board.

What this method cannot tell you

Anyone who claims their verification is perfect is selling you something. Here is where ours stops.

  • Your broker is not our data source. Your real fill will differ, sometimes by a lot on fast moves and thin hours.
  • We measure the trade as it was posted. If the person managing it moved a stop or closed early without saying so, we can only see it when a later message says so.
  • A verified past record describes what already happened. It is a measurement, not a forecast, and nothing here says a group will repeat it.
  • Sample size decides everything. Thirty trades tell you very little, whatever the number next to them looks like, which is why we print the count next to every result.

Questions people actually ask

How do you verify a Telegram or Discord trading group?

We connect to the chat as a read only observer, parse every posted trade idea, and replay each one against independent market data. The group never submits its own numbers, and cannot edit what the replay found.

Can a group fake its results on ViTrade?

It cannot submit results at all. The only thing a group controls is what it posts, and we score every post, including the ones it would rather forget. Deleting a message after the fact does not remove a trade that was already replayed.

What does R mean next to a result?

R is one unit of the risk the group itself defined, the distance from its entry to its stop. Plus one R means the trade made exactly what it risked. It makes results comparable across instruments and position sizes.

Why does a group show fewer verified trades than it posted?

Because some posts cannot be verified honestly. Missing market data, an undefined stop or an ambiguous message all keep a trade out of the scored record. The difference is shown rather than hidden.

Does a good verified record mean the group will make money?

No. A record describes trades that already closed, under our replay assumptions and not on your broker with your sizing. It tells you whether a group's claims held up, which is a different question from what happens next.

See it on a real group

The board is open. Every group on it was measured the way this page describes, with the sample size and confidence printed next to each number.